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March 09, 2021


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Ok, I'm going to be unpopular here. Yes, I enjoyed the wonderful T and V piece. Who wouldn't? But, someone on another site led me to the 1978 Gelsey Kirkland, Baryshnikov version which in some ways I liked much much better. Kirkland's rendition moved me. Her arms, her control; it was beautiful. Not exuberant, nor joyful, but masterful.
I'm a big fan of Tiler Peck, but I'm not in love with her flying arms. If you watch Kirkland, you see she actually comes to gorgeous positions, while Peck's arms and wrists flit and flail at times. It was too much. Perhaps I've seen too many of her recent instagram dance posts which imitate to a large degree the same loose style.
Just my opinion.

Hi mt.

I'm familiar with the Gelsey/Baryshnikov video and absolutely adore it. But Gelsey and Tiler have vastly different interpretations. Gelsey created a clear character who was akin to a princess meeting her prince. The formality of her port de bras was intended to convey the formalities that people employed in some royal setting in her imagination.

Also at the time, Gelsey was re-inventing herself as a Vaganova ballerina and intentionally eliminating all of the loose, careless arms that we see at NYCB (and often complain about). During the first series of classes that she ever taught at David Howard's studio, she tortured students over placement of fingers, eye focus, the degree of angle of the inner elbow, the palm placement -- tortured students with the exactness required in order to make it beautiful.

Of course, that's not the way over at NYCB; but Tiler's treatment of port de bras is like academic perfection compared to what we had to endure from NYCB dancers 20 some years ago.

Basically, my heart is big enough to love many different stylistic versions of T&V. I hope to live long enough to see Brittany Pollack and Emilie Gerrity tackle the role.

Tiler's musicality and precise technique rarely disappoints. I have watched Theme multiple times and will sneak in at least one more viewing before Thursday. I also have loved the rehearsal segments. Thanks for the info on PA ballet

I thought the NYCB T and V just put online was fantastic.

Peck looks beautiful in it. The only thing I missed were the pas de chat jumps in the first solo. They look so impressive and explosive in the Kirkland performance. The little jump and leg shakes just don't do it. Although Peck did perform them in the second solo. So that was good.

Hi Haglund,

I'm very familiar with the Gelsey/Misha T & V, both the 1975 and 1978 versions. You might say I've watched it hundreds of times. I also can appreciate many different versions but the GK/MB is to me the gold standard. The arms and upper body
of both dancers sing, and their style is classical and unmannered. Tiler's technique and to a lesser extent Veyette's is very impressive. They both, but he especially have rather wild arms, and much less movement in the torso. I felt very little chemistry between them. Although I'll watch it again, I'll return repeatedly to the GK/MB version. I'm hoping to see Peck and Joe Gordon in this in the theater some day.

There is something warmer and looser about Tiler, Gelsey it’s book perfect. Tiler she is not perfectly calculated, she is one with the music and the steps, she blends, gives, and plays and allow moments to happens. I can not said one it’s better than the other, but like Haglund mentions they both have a place in the history of T&V. With Gelsey you have a sense of wonder , with Tiler it’s like she make you feel her happiness and freedom when she dance one of the hardest ballets in history!!!!! That is to me the most impressive about Tiler she makes it’s looks easy!

Yes, DF. I would say one is Chardonnay and one is Cabernet. I enjoy both!

Haglund, well said! I enjoy both too.

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